Category Archives: property law

Mailbag for April 1, 2011

Today we have questions about sentient property and Asgard’s extraterritoriality.  As always, if you have questions or post suggestions, please send them to james@lawandthemultiverse.com and ryan@lawandthemultiverse.com or leave them in the comments.

I. Lost Sentient Property?

Both of today’s questions from Wusheng.  The first question is about Alan Scott (i.e. the first Green Lantern) and his ring: “The ring and lantern that Alan uses were carved from a meteor called the Starheart.  This meteor … was sentient.  As a result, the ring and energy within both it and the lantern, are sentient. … [H]ow does that affect the ‘lost property’ label that you gave it?”

This was partly addressed in the comments on the Lost and Found post that Wusheng referred to, but we wanted to take the opportunity to mention another possibility.  For intelligent artifacts that are not legally considered people (e.g. either because the courts don’t recognize non-human intelligences or because the artifact fails whatever test the courts set up), it is possible that a court could treat them as a kind of animal.  So we wondered how the lost property analysis changes if one views the ring as a lost animal (albeit one that doesn’t move around much).

As it turns out, there is a particular body of law dealing with lost or stray animals, which the law calls “estrays.”  (The initial e comes from the Old French estraier. This is a common pattern in old legal terms.  See, e.g., estoppel).

At common law estrays were generally defined as “a beast wandering, or without an owner; one wandering at large, or lost, or whose owner is unknown.”  Walters v. Glats, 29 Iowa 437, 439 (1870).  However, most states (including Iowa at the time of that decision) have specific statutes for estrays.  Importantly for superheroes, the reason the beast was wandering is unimportant: “it is plainly immaterial how the animal escaped from the owner,—whether by his voluntary act, by the act of a trespasser upon his premises, or by a thief.” Kinney v. Roe, 7o Iowa 509 (1886); see also State v. Miller, 41 N.M. 618 (1937).  Relatively recently the Vermont Supreme Court held that estray laws only apply to animals of considerable economic value and so do not apply to dogs.  Morgan v. Kroupa, 167 Vt. 99, 102-03 (1997).

The sentient ring and lantern would seem to fit this definition: they are plainly lost (albeit not wandering), the owner is unknown, and they definitely have considerable economic value.  The next question is, what rights are conferred on the finder of an estray?  The particulars vary from state to state, but the general framework is that the finder acquires a qualified property right that becomes an absolute right if the original owner doesn’t show up and claim the estray after a set time period.  Since the original owner never shows up, Scott would get a complete property right in the ring and lantern.

Since many states have enacted estray statutes rather than rely on the common law, a judge might not be able to apply the estray statute directly (that’s the problem the Vermont court ran into).  However, estray law provides a template or framework that courts can use to apply to things that sit in that “special place somewhere in between a person and a piece of personal property.” Corso v. Crawford Dog & Cat Hosp., Inc., 415 N.Y.S.2d 182, 183 (City Civ.Ct.1979).  So a court could use estray laws as the basis for handling sentient artifacts.

II. Extraterritoriality and the Asgardian Embassy

For his second question Wusheng writes about Thor moving Asgard to Oklahoma (Thor, vol. 3, #2-3).  “He started out just hovering it over farmland, but eventually bought out the farmland for a massively inflated price (he filled the back of the farmer’s truck with gold).  At this point, Iron Man tried to force Thor into declaring it to be under U.S. rule, but Thor knocked him around like a rag doll for a bit and Iron Man agreed to let it remain sovereign.

My question is, if we disregard the attempt by Iron Man to force it under U.S. rule, how would International Law handle something like this?  Or would Iron Man’s response (if heavy handed and more than a bit foolish) have been a more or less appropriate response?”

What the US granted Asgard was extraterritoriality.  As Iron Man explained in the comic, this is indeed a common feature of an embassy or other diplomatic mission.  The bigger issues here are Asgard’s size (i.e. just how much space is being ceded), whether Iron Man really had authority to negotiate on behalf of the US (we’ll assume he did for narrative convenience), and whether the US was willing to give territory to a foreign power that effectively just invaded the US (we’ll assume it was willing to do so because, c’mon, he’s the God of Thunder).

It’s not clear exactly how large Asgard is, but it looks to be at least several acres and perhaps as much as a square mile.  This would be exceptionally large for an extraterritorial space in the US.  The largest such space is the UN headquarters in New York, which sits on 17 acres (.026 square miles).  There are roughly 190 foreign embassies and 1200 foreign consulates in the US.  Assuming they all enjoy extraterritorial status (which is not actually the case) and occupy an average of one acre each (which is being very generous) that amounts to about 2.18 square miles.  So Asgard would likely be the largest extraterritorial space in the US and quite possibly the largest embassy in the world (the current record holder, the new US embassy in Iraq, sits on 104 acres or .16 square miles).

However, while that might be unusual for the US and for embassies, it is not unusual in other contexts.  For example, the US operates hundreds of military bases in dozens of foreign countries, some of which are quite large (e.g. Guantanamo Bay Naval Base is 45 square miles).  So it is not without precedent for a country to cede a large extraterritorial space to another country.  It would be unusual for the US to do so, but given that we’re talking about a God of Thunder here, the result seems reasonable and consistent with how international law treats embassies and similar extraterritorial spaces.

That’s all for this week!  Until next time, keep your questions and post suggestions coming in!

Lost and Found

A common trope in comic books and other literature is the hero (or villain) who accidentally stumbles across a magical artifact or other source of power.  One famous example is Tolkien’s The One Ring, but examples abound in comics as well.  Alan Scott found his namesake Green Lantern in the remains of a train wreck.  Dara Brighton, protagonist of The Sword, finds the namesake weapon in a hidden basement.  Cain Marko, aka The Juggernaut, finds the ruby that gives him his power in a temple in Korea.

In the comics it is taken for granted that these characters are the rightful possessors of the artifacts.  “Finders keepers,” right?  And in the case of the Green Lantern and the Juggernaut’s ruby there also seems to be an implicit invitation to take the artifact.  But what are the legal principles at work here?

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Immortals and Compound Interest

A number of people have asked, both in comments and in emails, why compound interest isn’t the solution to all of our immortals’ money problems. It’s not a bad question, and it’s shown up in a number of places.

It turns out that this isn’t nearly as workable a solution in practice as it is on paper. There are two main reasons for this. The first is historical, and the second economic, but together they conspire to make living off your interest a little harder than it sounds.

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The Law and the Multiverse Holiday Special

You might not know it, but Santa Claus has been a character in both the DC and Marvel universes, which makes him fair game for our blog.  In this post we take a look at Santa and the law.

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Superpowers as Personal Property

The superpowers of many comic book heroes and villains are often in a state of flux.  Powers can be gained, lost, used up, given away, abandoned, shared, and stolen, which sounds a lot like the attributes of property.  Comic book characters even speak of powers as though they were possessions.  Here we consider whether superpowers should be treated as personal property and the legal consequences of that view.

I. Why Property?

At first it may seem strange to view superpowers as property.  After all, we can imagine an alternative view, which is that superpowers are just extreme versions of intrinsic human abilities like a sprinter’s speed or a chess grandmaster’s intellect.  If someone intentionally cripples a sprinter, that person is liable in tort and criminal law for battery.  If someone takes away the Flash’s superspeed, why should that be treated differently?

I think the answer is that superpowers seem much more fluid and interchangeable than ordinary human abilities, and lost superpowers have a habit of returning, one way or the other.  A crippled sprinter may never run competitively again even if he or she is not permanently disabled, but powers drained by Rogue, for example, will fully return on their own after the effects of her power-draining ability wear off.

It should also be noted that viewing superpowers as property is not incompatible with also punishing the theft or involuntary loss of a superpower as a crime and tort against the person as well.  The mundane analogy might be to a person who uses a prosthesis.  Someone who forcibly took that prosthesis while the person was wearing it would be guilty of both theft and battery and liable for both conversion and battery.

II. Legal Consequences

One immediate consequence of viewing superpowers as property is that power-drainers like Rogue, Scrambler, or Leech may be liable for the tort of conversion and the crime of theft (or common law robbery, if you prefer) in addition to the tort and crime of battery for which they were likely already liable.  This would only apply to unjustified uses of the ability, of course.  Use of such powers against a willing subject or out of self-defense, defense of others, or necessity would still be justified.

But the consequences don’t stop there.  If Superman uses the power of a blue sun to bestow superpowers on another person, is that a taxable asset transfer?  Who would want to try to collect?

If two superheroes marry, share a power, then later divorce, could one be forced to give up the power during the division of assets?  Does it matter who had the power originally?  Even though the shared power may be a non-rival good, one of the two superheroes may still have a claim to exclusivity.  Perhaps the power is a trademark ability of one character, or maybe they signed a superhero pre-nuptial agreement that determined the disposition of any shared abilities.

If one superhero lends a power to another (or to a normal person), does that superhero have an implied right to its return?  In other words, is a bailment created?  I think the answer here is yes.

What about characters like Mimic that only copy the abilities of others rather than stealing or draining them?  Should there be an intellectual property-like exclusive right in superpowers?  For intrinsic abilities the answer would seem to be no, since providing such an exclusive right would not lead to the development of more or better superpowers.  But for superpowers that are the product of experimentation, subjecting oneself to dangerous radiation, etc, then perhaps there should be.  If a power-mimic can effortlessly copy a power that the original owner nearly died to gain, maybe there would be fewer superpowers produced in the first place since people would no longer think the risk worth the reward of a unique power.  On the other hand, there does not seem to be a shortage of powers in most comic book universes, so maybe the incentive is not needed.

The property rights view may also give rise to new business models.  Consider a superpowered individual who had an amazing power but who did not personally feel like becoming a superhero.  With a property right in his or her power (and the assistance of someone like Mr. M or Sage), he or she could rent it out or lease it to others who were willing to take on the responsibilities of superherodom.

III. Conclusion

There is a good argument for treating superpowers as property or at least a kind of quasi-property in many circumstances.  This treatment might lead to occasional complications, but it would also bring a lot of advantages and protections to superpowered individuals.

I’m not dead yet! Resurrection and Probate Law

Superheros and supervillians too numerous to count have, for various reasons, been killed, lost, or otherwise presumed dead, only to come back at a convenient date. It’s gotten a little silly at times.

The legal system has pretty well-established rules for what to do when someone dies. If they’ve got a will, their property will generally be distributed according to its dictates (no naughty trying to disinherent current spouses!) and if they don’t have a will, i.e. they die intestate, the law is pretty clear about how their estate is to be distributed. Most states have adopted some version of the Uniform Probate Code, or UPC, which other than the UCC and MPC is actually one of the more successful uniform laws in terms of its adoption by the various states.

The law even has a way of handling situations where a person is not actually known to be dead but is clearly no longer around. A person who is legally absent, i.e. a person whose whereabouts are unknown for quite some time, will generally be presumed dead after a few years. Five to seven is pretty common, though interestingly for the citizens of Metropolis, New York only give you three (NY CLS EPTL § 2-1.7). It usually takes a court proceeding to get someone officially declared dead in the absence of a body, and in general, the courts will presume that a person is alive until there is clear evidence to the contrary or state statue operates to force presumption.

That last bit is actually of interest to our consideration of law and the multiverse. Pretty much every state has a statute saying that if one is legally absent for a specified period of time, a court can declare one to be dead. But a few states also have a provision that exposure to a “specific peril of death” can permit a court to rule one dead before the specified period expires. See, e.g., 20 Pa. Cons. Stat. § 5701(c). As superheros are exposed to specific perils of death basically all the time, and would not generally be suspected to be dead in the absence of such a peril, it seems likely that a court, or at least a genre blind one, would be willing to rule on a superhero’s death pretty quickly. Which makes things a bit complicated if they aren’t actually dead.

So what happens when, after they have been declared dead, a person turns up again? The Straight Dope has a good article on this subject, so I shall attempt to avoid repeating that discussion here, but their discussion of a rather interesting case on the subject could stand to be expanded.

Southern Farm. Bureau Life Ins. Co. v. Burney, 590 F.Supp. 1016 (E.D.Ark. 1984) is the big case here. In 1976, John Burney of Helena, Arkansas, ran into financial difficulties. On June 11, he was involved in a traffic accident on a bridge crossing the Mississippi River and managed to clamber over the railing and down the bridge into the river, where he swam to Mississippi instead of back home to Arkansas. He caught a bus and spent the next six years living in Florida as “John Bruce,” complete with a new wife and child, neither of whom had any inkling of his former life. He returned to Arkansas in 1982 to visit his father and was discovered. Unfortunately for him, Burley’s wife and business partners had filed claims on various life insurance policies taken out on him and received benefits totaling $470,000. The wife, who may have been annoyed at finding out that her husband had completely abandoned his family and set up another one, contacted the insurer immediately. The insurer was annoyed and promptly sued Burley into next Tuesday.

Here’s where things get interesting for whack-a-mole-type supers: Burley’s wife and business partners, who had no knowledge of Burley’s whereabouts and had assumed that he had died in the accident, wound up a total of $470,000 richer. The judge let them keep that money, theorizing that “the policy of the law is to encourage settlement of litigation and to uphold and enforce contracts of settlement* if they are fairly arrived at, not in contravention of law or public policy.” (Id. at 1022). Burley wound up being found liable for $470,000 plus interest–whether or not he paid is another matter–but the people who received property as a result of his death were permitted to keep it.

The implication here–and there really isn’t much case law beyond this, because most people who are presumed to be dead are actually dead–is that if a person dies or is presumed to be dead, courts are not going to be very eager to disturb the settlement of property distributed via inheritance or devise unless there is a clear statutory reason to do so. Many states have statutes addressing this subject, but they’re all over the place.

– Cal. Prob. Code § 12408 specifies that a person who reappears after being presumed dead may recover any of his estate which has not been distributed, but property that has been distributed is only recoverable if it is “equitable under the circumstances,” and not at all if five years have passed.

– Va. Code Ann. § 64.1-113 provides that property which has not been distributed and property which is in the hands of someone who received it as a result of the presumption of death shall be returned to the person presumed dead, but bona fide purchasers of estate property are allowed to keep it. Pennsylvania takes a different approach.

– 20 Pa.C.S. § 5703 requires that if a person is declared dead in whole or in part on the basis of his continued absence, no property can be distributed out of his estate without the distributee posting a bond for the value of the property. Clearly, a superhero who fears that he may erroneously be declared dead at some point should consider moving to Philadelphia.

– New York doesn’t seem to have a statute on this subject at all, meaning that any property distributed because a person is presumed to have died could be pretty difficult to get back.

So this really becomes a question of the state’s law where our supposedly deceased character’s will or estate would be probated. A returning or resurrected character could find that they get back most of the property they lost, or they could wind up with nothing. The longer they take to come back, the more likely the second outcome is.

*Apparently the insurance company never thought that Burley was dead, but it chose to settle with the claimants rather than fight. The judge reasoned that they had figured the likelihood of Burley actually being alive into their settlement.

Immortality and the law

Is being immortal illegal?

Probably not as such, but living longer than the standard three-score and ten, as many superheros in both major multiverses are wont to do, does create some interesting legal issues.

I. Successive alter-egos

As a preliminary matter, if our immortal has decided not to make his immortality known to the general public, he’s going to need an alter ego, some of the difficulties of which are discussed here. But being immortal adds another wrinkle: you’re going to have to do this on a regular basis. You’ll basically have to ditch your original identity once it becomes clear that you aren’t aging, and then you’ll probably need to do it again every ten to twenty years to avoid the obvious “Why haven’t you aged in the last decade?” sorts of questions. This means completely severing ties with people who don’t know your true identity and coming up with a completely new alter-ego, from scratch, every decade or two.

That compounds the difficulties, because in addition to the standard this-is-a-fraudulent-activity-anyway problems, you’re now replacing a fictional identity with another fictional identity. The odds of someone noticing something strange don’t go up with repeated brushes with the law.

In pre-modern times, this wouldn’t actually have been that big of a deal. Public records were basically non-existent, and proving that you were who you said you were was not really something the law looked too closely at. But with the advent of modern recordkeeping and property registries, this becomes much, much more difficult.

II. The Rule Against Perpetuities

Immortality also raises the specter of a now mostly abandoned feature of property law doctrine which is nonetheless used to torture first-year law students to this very day, the Rule Against Perpetuities. The RAP dates back to early-modern England, when it was realized that aristocratic families were so encumbering their properties with conditions on inheritance that it was becoming impossible to transfer good title to vast swaths of the countryside. In response, the courts imposed a rule that no interest was valid unless it could “vest,” i.e. become a present interest in a living person, within twenty-one years after the death of some person alive when the interest was created. In short, you’re allowed to create interests which vest in your kids, but you can’t perpetually encumber your property such that your grandkids won’t have clear title to the property.

What exactly are we talking about? Well consider a family farm. Say mom ‘n pop are sentimental about the farm, so they leave the farm to their son but put some conditions on it, like so: “To our son, we leave the family farm, but if he ever stops using it as a farm like we did, the farm will revert to the estate.” That would be permitted by the Rule Against Perpetuities, but an attempt to pass that restriction on to their as-yet-unborn grandchildren would probably not.

A lot of states have abandoned the RAP, as hereditary land dynasties are no longer de regeur, and simply administering the RAP was a pain in the neck. Law students are still taught it, more often than not, but no one really runs into this in practice.

Which in the context of any of the comics multiverses wouldn’t necessarily matter, as immortality would play merry hell with the property law even with the RAP. An immortal could easily put all sorts of restrictions on property he sells over the course of his unnaturally long life, creating right of reentry in himself. And because he isn’t going to die, that land would never, ever be able to used for something he didn’t permit, because it is impossible to grant better title to land than you yourself possess, ergo any restrictions placed by an immortal would remain on the property forever. This is clearly less than ideal, and though most superheros would persumably not be dicks about this, one can easily imagine a supervillain really mucking things up that way over time.

III. The Fee Simple and Alter-Egos

But that aside, the actual nature of the fee simple also presents some problems. In normal society, a person accumulates property slowly over the course of their lifespan, perhaps inheriting some from their parents, and then passes whatever they haven’t managed to spend on to their children. It has been this way for all of human history, and even though some families manage to accumulate more wealth than others, but even the longest dynasties die out after a while. The House of Habsburg was the most powerful family in Europe for almost four centuries, but none of its heirs currently occupy any positions of particular influence, and their wealth pales in comparison to newer fortunes. The natural cycle of life and death has ensured a more-or-less orderly transition of property from parents to children since the dawn of time.

But an immortal person could simply go on amassing property forever. The perpetual nature of the fee simple and the power of compound interest mean that even starting from abject poverty, an immortal person could become quite wealthy in a century or two and could become one of the wealthiest in the world if given a thousand years. Exactly why Apocalypse didn’t simply buy every last scrap of available real estate as it came up for sale over the millennia is probably because that would have been boring, but as the best form of land use control is ownership, any number of nefarious plots would be a lot easier to pull off if you just bought the damn planet.

This presents two problems. The first is with anonymity, i.e. creating and maintaining a fictional person who is really one of the richest people in the world just doesn’t work. An immortal who wished to remain largely anonymous would find it difficult to do that while maintaining any significant level of wealth, contributing to the other problems with maintaining an alter-ego. This is not an entirely academic point, as at least some degree of wealth will be necessary to avoid being forced to get a real job. There’s a reason Batman, Tony Stark, etc. have playboy-billionaire alter-egos: it explains how they can afford to spend all of their time running around in exotic suits chasing villains. Being Batman is cool and all, but one of the defining characteristics of being a vigilante is that no one is paying you to do it.

Then there’s the simple fact that owning property requires interacting with it on some level, even if only through intermediaries, and the odds are decent that over the course of maintaining a financial empire, someone is going to notice that you look exactly like you did fifty years ago. Again, if you’re public about your identity, that’s fine, but if you aren’t, this will cause problems.

There are two obvious practical solutions to this issue. The first is to assume that being a superhero is really expensive, which it may well be. Batmobiles don’t come cheap. But Wolverine doesn’t seem to need much more than clothes, motorcycles, and beer to do his thing, so that isn’t a universal solution. The second is to simply be in the business of giving away lots of money on a regular basis so as to avoid accumulating more than a modest fortune. That’s risky–even real estate is no guarantee of future income–but it is potentially workable.

Of course, there’s always the option of faking your own death periodically–or actually dying–and either becoming your own heir or picking up a new, fabulously wealthy patron. That or a continuity reboot.

The second problem with adding immortality to the fee simple is that unless an immortal actually conquers the world, it seems doubtful that he would be permitted to acquire property ad infinitum. Someone is eventually going to notice. Then a bunch of someones, including various state actors, and there’s a good chance the latter will be pissed. Authoritarian governments certainly wouldn’t permit a private citizen to own large chunks of their real estate, and even democratic governments would probably wind up reaching a point where enough is too much. This would raise interesting Fifth and Fourteenth Amendment issues. Seizing or interfering with property interests generally requires compensation under US law, and trying to carve out an exception for that for immortal people who are just too damn rich would raise interesting Equal Protection and discrimination issues, some of which have been discussed elsewhere. But if political pressure were strong enough, the courts and/or legislature would presumably make something up.

IV. Conclusion

So again, while being immortal doesn’t appear illegal as such, it does make keeping a low profile a bit more difficult, and the law would probably wind up making an attempt to literally capitalize on immortality more difficult than it sounds.